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Post by Ryan Rønning on Oct 22, 2011 16:41:23 GMT -8
Going to take a crack at the Paystar 500 logger only I am using a 5000 dump truck and the amt trailer separate. I am going for a more dedicated offroad overloaded type of truck. Wish me luck.
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Post by Muleskinner on Oct 22, 2011 16:52:47 GMT -8
The off road logger, now thats my kind of rig. Go for it!!!
William
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Post by Ryan Rønning on Oct 22, 2011 17:11:25 GMT -8
I am thinking tridens and 10-12 foot bunks. It wont be based on a real truck. Just going to let my imagination go wild.
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Post by slurrydog on Oct 22, 2011 21:57:36 GMT -8
Should be a real fun build. Dave
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Post by ap40rocktruck on Oct 23, 2011 16:28:50 GMT -8
Yeah! Please post photos as you go. The kit has SOOOO much potential.
Ap40
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Post by Ryan Rønning on Oct 23, 2011 17:33:11 GMT -8
Will do. I have been trying to divide if I want to go this route or more heavy duty like this.
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Post by ap40rocktruck on Oct 23, 2011 17:55:31 GMT -8
Will do. I have been trying to divide if I want to go this route or more heavy duty like this. Well for the Paystar, i would lean more towards the first photo, this is a Pacific P-500S, with tri-drive. could be set up on air, or if you stuck with the vintage of the Paystar kit, then the older tri-drive walking beam would be more correct. The second photo is that of a Hayes HDX-1000, the frame is a tapered I beam, with planetary axles. Power was most often the DDC 12V-71, by now many have been rebuilt with Cat 3408, Cummins QSX & QSK, a few had the Series 60. The biggest hurdle with the HDX size is the width across the front is 10', wider at the rear tandem, very hard to do with the Paystar kit. Ap40
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Post by Ryan Rønning on Oct 23, 2011 18:05:31 GMT -8
Well I will figure something out. I will probably stick with the first style.
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Post by Muleskinner on Oct 23, 2011 18:30:34 GMT -8
If you are going with an early style off highway, I've seen a lot of them in my time that looked like the standard truck with heavier tires and rims, Suspension and just wider bunks stuck on them to increase the load. Wayne Bare Trucking and Simpson Lumber Company out of Korbel,California in the late 50's and early 60', did just that to save on expenses.
They were also equipped with water cooled brakes, with the bunker tank mounted atop the frame , behind the headache rack. the trailer was beefed up by adding a slightly larger tunnel and reach, to withstand the heavier loads. When my step dad took a job driving log truck for Wayne Bare He started out on an old international which if you looked at it from a distance it looked normal until you got right up on it then the changes began to appear.
The heavier Hayes and Pacific's had not yet invaded the territory yet and were mostly up north in Washington and Canada. In logging, ya go with what you got to work with.
In Oregon a lot of Autocars were built up for off highway use because of the white and autocar being built in Portland, Oregon. The Autocar was by far the better truck for off highway conversion because of it being a heavy built truck for its day. If you can find a book on Autocar from the Early 50 to the late sixties they usually show a lot of Autocars hauling humongous log loads off highway.
Pacific Lumber Company out of Scotia California also had a few Mack's which were beefed up to Off Highway specs which they used for years in the Pepperwood and Bull Creek area.
GP and Pacific Lumber Company finally moved in with a bunch of beefed up K whoppers and Pete's before the big lumber spiral.
My son who is also a member of this forum Bitner1970 built a model of on of PALCO's off highway Mack's. I'll see if I can get him to post it.
William
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Post by Ryan Rønning on Oct 24, 2011 5:21:08 GMT -8
Thanks for all the good info guys. I will be probably experimenting with this one till I come up with something I like.
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Post by ap40rocktruck on Oct 24, 2011 16:53:08 GMT -8
looking forward to it, Keep us posted.
Ap40
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Post by Muleskinner on Oct 24, 2011 16:57:12 GMT -8
Thanks for all the good info guys. I will be probably experimenting with this one till I come up with something I like. Now youre taking the loggers approach to the design! Thats what I like to see. Will be lookin for the model soon. William
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Post by Ryan Rønning on Oct 25, 2011 2:45:28 GMT -8
Well I will dive right in as soon as the kits get here. I think I will get my feet wet with scratch building on this to as I bought a bulk lot of varies plastruct and evergreen stuff.
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Post by Ryan Rønning on Oct 25, 2011 3:08:26 GMT -8
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Post by ap40rocktruck on Oct 25, 2011 9:07:29 GMT -8
AHH the Tackaberry collection. He is up in Ontario, one of the most prolific IH collectors & restorers in North America. AP40
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