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Post by wazzakw on Aug 12, 2012 13:10:03 GMT -8
very very smick.just needs to go out and do a days work..
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Post by trailking120 on Aug 13, 2012 2:49:40 GMT -8
Thanks ;D
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Post by ap40rocktruck on Aug 13, 2012 4:38:53 GMT -8
Yeah, that is a Looong truck for a east coast modeler! ;D ;D ;D
Those larger 22.5" rear drive wheels really set the truck off, great look on the whole rig.
Ap40
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Post by trailking120 on Aug 13, 2012 7:06:04 GMT -8
Thanks Rick. We need the length to move the long logs we have out here LOL.  You going up to the woodsman fields in Boonville this weekend? |
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Post by ap40rocktruck on Aug 13, 2012 15:05:52 GMT -8
Thanks Rick. We need the length to move the long logs we have out here LOL. You going up to the woodsman fields in Boonville this weekend? No planned on going up to Potsdam for the Frances Walsh border antique truck show. Matt is trying to get his W-900A running so i don't want to miss it. Ap40 |
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Post by Muleskinner on Aug 13, 2012 20:52:21 GMT -8
Had a couple of visitors over today from schaffers logging and one of them used to drive for Ireland many years back. Showed them your truck and they want to see the picture you modeled it off of as they both said the yellow was a little to bright. John would know as he drove for them 15 years. He also said for that era of truck, there would not be a drop axle on them. Ron the other Schaffer driver loaded them out on the landing. So could you post the picture so I can pass it on to them?  I'm not doubting your word, I'm a little curious now after listening to them. Logging rigs change so much over the years you never know whats right and whats wrong. ;D ;D Since this rig originated in my neck of the woods like I said I'm a little curious also. William |
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Post by trailking120 on Aug 14, 2012 3:10:45 GMT -8
Had a couple of visitors over today from schaffers logging and one of them used to drive for Ireland many years back. Showed them your truck and they want to see the picture you modeled it off of as they both said the yellow was a little to bright. John would know as he drove for them 15 years. He also said for that era of truck, there would not be a drop axle on them. Ron the other Schaffer driver loaded them out on the landing. So could you post the picture so I can pass it on to them? I'm not doubting your word, I'm a little curious now after listening to them. Logging rigs change so much over the years you never know whats right and whats wrong. ;D ;D Since this rig originated in my neck of the woods like I said I'm a little curious also. William William I will look around for that photo. I know it didn't have a pusher on it. That was just a little modelers license. |
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Post by trailking120 on Aug 14, 2012 3:25:09 GMT -8
William here are the pictures I had to go from. The top is the T-800 That I wanted to do but then did the W-900 .  |
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Post by Muleskinner on Aug 14, 2012 9:34:29 GMT -8
I'll show these to the guys at the shop and see what they say. That one old blue truck is the wreck of Bob Irelands truck. I seen it many a time up in the Willamette forest by Eugene where I was working as a Cat skinner, back in the early days before my retirement. It was wrecked up around Diamond Lake , East of Roseburg. It also cariies the first Ireland Brothers Colours. The Stripe on it would be Cat Yellow with the frame and equipment to match, with a Mettalic Blue Cab and hood.
The other rig which is also a Kenworth is a Rig out of Coquille, Oregon just up the road from here where I live. I can just make out the Coquille on the door Below the name which looks to be a old Morgan Brothers Truck which was used off Highway in the Coos River Area on the East side of Coos Bay. The end of the boom above it is the self loader, off the only one Ireland Brothers Had.
Anyway I will take these down to Schaffers shop next door from here and see if the guys are there and show them to them.
William
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Post by Muleskinner on Aug 14, 2012 10:43:28 GMT -8
Justin,
I just talked to Rob Schaffer who owns Schaffer Logging here in Norway, Oregon. I showed him your rig which you built and the first thing he said was it should be Cat Yellow and Blue. Other than that he said it was a beautiful build of an Ireland Truck. He also told me that he has known the Irelands for many years as his trucks haul out of the same general area as the Ireland Brothers over in the Cascades and here on the coastal area.
From what Rob told me they started out as the solid blue truck in your 1:1 truck photo and then went to the way they are now for higher visibility on the roads. On the hood of your rig The narrow hood stripe should start at a point at the lower side closest to the radiator and arch downward (Rob called it Fishbelly upward.) and up to six inches back on the top side of the stripe.
He said he liked the rig really well as a logging rig from the west Coast but it should be cat yellow. I agree with him and the other guys it is one great build for being done off a picture but the eye can play tricks on you when looking at colors in the sunlight. I have the same problem when looking at pictures which were taken in the sun light as the camera adjusts the color for the best viewing and sometimes will either lighten or darken the colour. Yellow is just one of those colors. I was told when I was going to college and taking art classes, when you look at a color photograph which is taken in the bright sunlight, find a spot where there is a graduation between the light and shaded area if you can find about the center of the area where the light area starts to get darker, that area will be your natural color. I don't know if thats understandable to you but it does work.
Anyway Your build is a great representation of a west Coast Logger and the detail is great. I hope to see more of your builds in the future. I don't want you to feel I was nit picking at your build, but when you see something which doesn't look right I have a habit of asking a lot of questions about it. Being an ex logger, its just the way I am. The other guys here on the forum who worked in and around the logging industry will help you all they can with any questions about building our type of Western Logging truck which is out of the normal to some one such as yourself on the East Coast. Our rigs are a wide seperation from what you are normally used to seeing, in your neck of the woods.
Thats mainly why I set this forum up was to generate the knowledge back and forth on the differences between the East and West Coast and in other countries as far as that goes.
Anyway, Welcome again to the forum and hope to see some more of your builds in the future.
William
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Post by ap40rocktruck on Aug 14, 2012 10:44:58 GMT -8
I'll show these to the guys at the shop and see what they say. That one old blue truck is the wreck of Bob Irelands truck. I seen it many a time up in the Willamette forest by Eugene where I was working as a Cat skinner, back in the early days before my retirement. It was wrecked up around Diamond Lake , East of Roseburg. It also cariies the first Ireland Brothers Colours. The Stripe on it would be Cat Yellow with the frame and equipment to match, with a Mettalic Blue Cab and hood. The other rig which is also a Kenworth is a Rig out of Coquille, Oregon just up the road from here where I live. I can just make out the Coquille on the door Below the name which looks to be a old Morgan Brothers Truck which was used off Highway in the Coos River Area on the East side of Coos Bay. The end of the boom above it is the self loader, off the only one Ireland Brothers Had. Anyway I will take these down to Schaffers shop next door from here and see if the guys are there and show them to them. William OK William, you have my attention, how about some photos of the older log trucks from Ireland......... Ap40 |
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Post by Muleskinner on Aug 14, 2012 11:01:42 GMT -8
I'll show these to the guys at the shop and see what they say. That one old blue truck is the wreck of Bob Irelands truck. I seen it many a time up in the Willamette forest by Eugene where I was working as a Cat skinner, back in the early days before my retirement. It was wrecked up around Diamond Lake , East of Roseburg. It also cariies the first Ireland Brothers Colours. The Stripe on it would be Cat Yellow with the frame and equipment to match, with a Mettalic Blue Cab and hood. The other rig which is also a Kenworth is a Rig out of Coquille, Oregon just up the road from here where I live. I can just make out the Coquille on the door Below the name which looks to be a old Morgan Brothers Truck which was used off Highway in the Coos River Area on the East side of Coos Bay. The end of the boom above it is the self loader, off the only one Ireland Brothers Had. Anyway I will take these down to Schaffers shop next door from here and see if the guys are there and show them to them. William OK William, you have my attention, how about some photos of the older log trucks from Ireland......... Ap40 Rich, I will be going to Coos Bay some time this month as I have a doctors appointment at the VA Clinic, and I will stop and talk to the guys at the Ireland shop at Single House Slough. Most all of my pictures died in a computor crash a couple of years back and I really need the Ireland Pics to regenerate my collection. William |
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Post by trailking120 on Aug 14, 2012 13:21:26 GMT -8
William when you get up to the Ireland shop can you get the make and paint codes and more pictures?   I appreciate your knowledge and input. Thanks |
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Post by ap40rocktruck on Aug 14, 2012 14:45:18 GMT -8
OK William, you have my attention, how about some photos of the older log trucks from Ireland......... Ap40 Rich, I will be going to Coos Bay some time this month as I have a doctors appointment at the VA Clinic, and I will stop and talk to the guys at the Ireland shop at Single House Slough. Most all of my pictures died in a computor crash a couple of years back and I really need the Ireland Pics to regenerate my collection. William wow, ok so hopefully we all do multiple back ups of our digital files!! AP40 |
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Post by plowking on Aug 18, 2012 6:51:31 GMT -8
I know I've seen that rig before!! I love that Ireland paint job.
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You going up to the woodsman fields in Boonville this weekend?
I appreciate your knowledge and input.